What if the biggest obstacle to understanding the afterlife… is our logic?
In this eye-opening episode of The Shaun Tabatt Show, Dr. Raymond Moody—best known for his groundbreaking book Life After Life—dives deep into the misunderstood world of near-death experiences (NDEs), consciousness, reincarnation, and why “nonsense” might be the key to grasping what comes after death.
We explore:
🔹 Why NDEs can’t be understood through science alone
🔹 How Plato—not parapsychology—laid the foundation for afterlife research
🔹 The danger of claiming “proof” of Heaven or hell
🔹 Moody’s controversial stance on reincarnation, skepticism, and religion
🔹 His real breakthrough: a new way of thinking about the afterlife
Whether you’re a believer, skeptic, or seeker—this conversation will challenge everything you think you know about death… and what comes next.
👉 Start with Dr. Moody’s book Making Sense of Nonsense: https://amzn.to/43XabgB
👉 Then read Dr. Moody’s book Life After Life: https://amzn.to/44mLpGE
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🔥 Summary of Key Points:
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Raymond Moody
01:54 Moody’s Educational & Career Background
03:32 Fascination with Nonsense from Childhood
05:55 Different Types of Nonsense Explained
08:34 Teaching Students to Understand Nonsense
10:24 Encountering Philosophy & the Afterlife
11:56 Plato, Self-Contradiction & Life After Death
14:27 The Problem with Literal Travel Narratives
15:59 Meeting Dr. George Ritchie & the Birth of NDE Study
16:53 The Rise of Parapsychology and Its Flaws
18:28 The Problem with Scientism & Logical Fallacies
20:09 The Pseudoscience of Parapsychology
22:30 Psychiatry Story: People Can’t Process the Impossible
25:25 The Problem with Mediums & the “Unknowable”
26:19 The Ideology Behind Scientism
28:45 Returning to Plato as the True Starting Point
30:53 Stories Alone Don’t Equal Rational Proof
32:49 A Call for a New Conceptual Framework
34:12 Why Narratives Aren’t Enough
35:16 Why Moody Continued Pursuing NDEs
36:36 CPR and the Rise of NDE Reports
37:53 David Hume’s Challenge to the Afterlife
40:05 A New Logic for the Unintelligible
41:40 Professional Applications of “Nonsense Logic”
43:01 A Student Applies Nonsense to His Own NDE
43:54 Abrogating Life After Life Without New Understanding
45:12 The Power of Lenses & Worldview
46:43 Different Reactions to Moody’s Work
48:25 What Real Skepticism Means (Pyrrho vs. Pop Skeptics)
50:36 Moody’s Critique of Modern Skeptical Movements
52:47 Humor in the “Skeptics” Community
54:59 Learning Through Worldviews That Differ from Yours
55:27 The Life Review & Personality Transformation
57:39 Life as a Two-Phase Process
58:57 The Danger of Claiming “Proof” of the Afterlife
01:00:15 Moody’s Personal Grief & Perspective on Misleading Others
01:02:18 The Ethics of “Proof” and Grieving People
01:04:32 A New Collective Framework for Afterlife Inquiry
01:05:53 Moody’s Own Near-Death Experience Reflection
01:07:08 Stories vs. Concepts: The Limits of Narrative
01:09:33 Processing Reincarnation Through Literary Theory
01:11:37 Identity as Narrative: What Holds the Stories Together?
01:13:02 Reincarnation in Greek Philosophy and Christianity
01:15:13 Story Framing: The Structure Behind Rebirth Stories
01:16:39 Lack of Shared Language Across Afterlife Communities
01:18:09 Rediscovering the Oracle of the Dead
01:21:05 Mirror-Gazing for Grief & Historical Context
01:22:56 Incorporating Ancient Grief Practices Today
01:24:43 Religion vs. Afterlife: A Provocative Claim
01:26:02 Why Moody Doesn’t “Believe” God Exists
01:27:33 Continuous Creation: God as a Living Presence
01:28:59 Moody’s Invitation to Challenge Making Sense of Nonsense
01:30:52 Preparing for a Follow-Up Conversation
01:32:19 The Power of Examined Life & Cross-Worldview Dialogue
01:33:42 Moody’s Experience of God & Divine Humor
01:35:52 Final Thoughts & Book Recommendations
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